Saturday, October 19, 2024

Now the Urim and Thummim is forbidden?

Even the term "Urim and Thummim" is being de-correlated.

It was one thing for our scholars to ignore what Joseph and Oliver said about the translation when they wrote the Gospel Topics Essay on Book of Mormon Translation. 

While it seems unthinkable that such an essay would not begin with quoting what Joseph and Oliver said, and even more unthinkable that the essay would completely ignore what they said (apart from a few misleadingly truncated excerpts), at least the essay used the term itself (although in a misleading way).

https://www.ldshistoricalnarratives.com/2022/09/analysis-gospel-topics-essay-on-book-of.html

The latest trend seems to be to ban the term itself.

For example, Elder Nash spoke at Scripture Central's "Moroni Day" i September 2024 and misrepresented what Joseph supposedly "referenced."


17:15 please note the following. without punctuation without strikeouts this was dictated word by word as he used what he referenced as to as the spectacles, at  times the searstone, [except Joseph never "referenced" or said he used a seer stone] using a hat to Shield his eyes from extraneous light in order to plainly see the words as they appeared

https://youtu.be/Oy8j4u97bso?t=1050 

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On the Come Back podcast, Casey Griffiths (BYU professor) again edits Oliver Cowdery's statement to avoid using the term Urim and Thummim and interpreters:

Original Source (omitted text in red)

Griffiths’ version

I wrote with my own pen the entire Book of Mormon (save a few pages) as it fell from the lips of the Prophet as he translated it by the gift and power of God by means of the Urim and Thummim, or as it is called by that book, holy interpreters.

 

I beheld with my eyes and handled with my hands the gold plates from which it was translated.

 

I also beheld the Interpreters.

 

That book is true.

 

Sidney Rigdon did not write it.

 

Mr. Spaulding did not write it.

I wrote with my own pen the entire Book of Mormon save a few pages as it fell from the lips of the Prophet Joseph Smith as he translated by the gift and power of God

 

 

 

I beheld with my eyes and handled with my hands the gold plates from which it was transcribed

 

 

 

That book is true

 

 


https://youtu.be/bshmVO3Mr4o?t=2181


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Now the Urim and Thummim is forbidden?

Even the term "Urim and Thummim" is being de-correlated. It was one thing for our scholars to ignore what Joseph and Oliver said ...